Submarines Show How Atomic Power Intrigues as a Way to Save the Climate (4)

  • Spies and aliens add to intrigue
  • I do believe by the way, that the United States has recovered what it believes is non-human technology. There, I said it.”: Coulthart
  • Four former air-force dudes to testify about UFOs “tampering” with nuclear weapons
  • U.K. to place nukes up front and centre in the energy / climate transition

Commentary by Mathew Carr

Oct. 11-15, 2021 — LONDON: A nuclear-power-generation module that does not need refueling for 35 years. That’s about half a lifetime for a human.

Built for navy submarines, it sounds like a weapons-grade way to help tackle the climate crisis, right?

If the U.S., or anyone, is hiding technical innovations (human or otherwise) that will help fix the climate crisis, now might be the time to fess up. So that decision makers could have more fat to chew on in terms of technological solutions as they bed down the Paris-climate-deal rulebook at the United Nations Glasgow climate talks starting later this month.

But, is 35 years without refueling the atomic module plausible?

Former Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is asking this very question. The answer he’s apparently getting is “yes” — but in a long time.

On Sept. 29, Turnbull addressed the country’s National Press Club. Here are the relevant bits:

He gave a small, important science lesson: In its natural state, uranium is 99% made up of a stable isotope U238, the unstable radioactive isotope U235 is only about 0.7%. The more U235, the more radiation, reactivity and energy. Highly enriched Uranium (HEU) has a concentration of 20% or more U235. Low-enriched uranium (LEU) as used in nuclear power stations is typically between 2-5%.

Then, later in the speech: Following the AUKUS announcement (a security deal involving submarines, Australia, the U.K. and the U.S. that peeved the French) on Sept. 15, Turnbull “was advised by the (Australian) Government that the work I had commenced on nuclear options continued and it had been concluded that Australia could use the modular HEU reactors currently deployed in the UK Astute and US Virginia class submarines which, because of their HEU fuel, do not require replacement during the 35 year life of the sub. This, it is contended, means that Australia could have a nuclear-powered submarine without any need to maintain, service or refuel the nuclear reactor.

“This is very different advice to that given to the Government as recently as three years ago. It sounds too good to be true; Australia would have submarines powered by nuclear reactors running on weapons grade uranium. And we would not need to have any of our own nuclear facilities or expertise

“Is it credible to have a hands-off plug and play nuclear reactor filled with weapons grade uranium and not inspect it for 35 years?  The US and UK will know for sure in about thirty years.”

You’re probably thinking … 30 years? We are meant to be at global net zero by then. This technology will be a bit too little, too late, won’t it?

SMR = small modular reactor — -another Bloom tweet below

Let’s assume development of this technology for civil use can be safely brought forward somewhat, and modified — eg for factory and city / grid electricity generation, massive container ships and even trains and trucks — and unpack some of the intrigue.


Breaking news in the past day or so:

A US navy nuclear engineer and his wife have been charged with trying to sell nuclear secrets to what they thought was a foreign state: BBC report

Jonathan Toebbe and his wife Diana were arrested in West Virginia on Saturday, the Justice Department announced.

They allegedly tried to sell nuclear submarine design data, hidden in a peanut butter sandwich, to someone they thought represented another country.

In fact, it was an undercover FBI agent.

You can read the rest at note 2, but this bit is too cool for you to miss out:

Peanut Butter & Submarines

In June this year, Jonathan and Diana Toebbe travelled to West Virginia to drop off the (secret atomic) data.

With Diana acting as a lookout, Jonathan “placed an SD (secure digital) card concealed within half a peanut butter sandwich” at a determined location, the affidavit said.

(So, the nature of the data isn’t completely clear. The report says that on the memory card was restricted data “related to submarine nuclear reactors”.)

US Virginia class submarines


The riskiest part of my writing today is also the most intriguing — but I do think the mainstream media needs to be joining these dots and investigating properly.

The news on submarines above reminded me of some work by my fellow Australian journalist Ross Coulthart, who’s published a book on UFOs –Unexplained Flying Objects or Unexplained Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

He’s credible to me, having worked for Australia’s news and current affairs television program, 60 Minutes, and on many investigations over decades to uncover information about the subject.

In a podcast about two weeks ago at note 3, he said:

I do think there is active disinformation going on at the moment, even now, from forces in American intelligence who — they’re not trying to suppress so much as they used to — they just trying to control. Because what’s happening at the moment I think is a decision has been made inside the U.S. government, that, yes, we’re now at a stage where we have to admit that there is a real phenomenon, we have to admit that there is an anomalous phenomena that is real.

[Coulthart speaking partly as if he’s second guessing the U.S. government] “Yeah, we can’t deny any more. [There are] too many sensor systems, too many phased-array radar systems are now installed on different aircraft, too many high-quality video systems — too many data points are picking it up.”

“I don’t think they want us to know anything about alleged [alien] crash recoveries, or any of the other, more extraordinary claims that have been made over the years by people like [Philip] Corso [author of “The day after Roswell.]

“It’s almost like what they’re trying to do is present a scenario, to the American and international public where the American government can in a few years time go: ‘Guys, look what we’ve discovered. This is amazing, there really is a real phenomenon.’

At one hour and 11 minutes into the podcast, he says this: “I do believe by the way, that the United States has recovered what it believes is non-human technology. There, I said it.

For a credible guy, who’s spent years looking into it, this seems like a stunningly important statement. To be fair, he’s saying based on speaking to many people who should know, he says. His sources are not clear, to me at least.

I’m not saying the alien tech is atomic. But the timing of the AUKUS deal and arrests mentioned above is interesting.

And a linkage to the submarines and nuclear tech is also there to be made. Some of these craft have been behaving as if they are protecting the earth against nuclear disaster, according to Coulthart and his reporting. And the unexplained “craft” also have been noticed under water, apparently.

Press release: Declassified U.S government documents and witness testimony from former or retired U.S. Air Force personnel to be presented as evidence of ongoing incursions by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear missile sites over several decades. These will be cited to support the claim that nuclear missiles were inexplicably disabled while a UAP object silently hovered nearby. Four former officers involved in such encounters will discuss these and other incidents at the National Press Club and urge the U.S. Congress to investigate and hold public hearings.

WHO:          Robert Salas, former USAF captain and nuclear missile crew commander
Robert Jamison, former USAF captain and nuclear missile targeting officer
David Schindele, former USAF captain and nuclear missile crew commander
Robert Jacobs, former USAF lieutenant and missile test photographic officer
WHAT:      A panel of former U.S. Air Force officers will discuss their involvement in UFO incidents at nuclear missile launch facilities and test sites during the Cold War era. Witness affidavits that substantiate the reality of UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites will be available.
WHEN:     Tuesday, October 19, 2021
8:30 -11:00 a.m.

I plan to do more research and I’m reaching out to you, readers, for comments.

(Adds names of air force folks, more to come)

  1. Turnbull’s speech:
  2. BBC story:
  3. Ross Coultard video podcast: and
  4. Tweet:

5. Book:

6. Source doc:



Department of JusticeOffice of Public Affairs


Sunday, October 10, 2021

Maryland Nuclear Engineer and Spouse Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges

Jonathan and Diana Toebbe, both of Annapolis, Maryland, were arrested in Jefferson County, West Virginia, by the FBI and the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) on Saturday, Oct. 9. They will have their initial appearances on Tuesday, Oct. 12, in federal court in Martinsburg, West Virginia. For almost a year, Jonathan Toebbe, 42, aided by his wife, Diana, 45, sold information known as Restricted Data concerning the design of nuclear-powered warships to a person they believed was a representative of a foreign power. In actuality, that person was an undercover FBI agent. The Toebbes have been charged in a criminal complaint alleging violations of the Atomic Energy Act.

“The complaint charges a plot to transmit information relating to the design of our nuclear submarines to a foreign nation,” said Attorney General Merrick B. Garland. “The work of the FBI, Department of Justice prosecutors, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and the Department of Energy was critical in thwarting the plot charged in the complaint and taking this first step in bringing the perpetrators to justice.”

Jonathan Toebbe is an employee of the Department of the Navy who served as a nuclear engineer and was assigned to the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program, also known as Naval Reactors. He held an active national security clearance through the U.S. Department of Defense, giving him access to Restricted Data. Toebbe worked with and had access to information concerning naval nuclear propulsion including information related to military sensitive design elements, operating parameters and performance characteristics of the reactors for nuclear powered warships.

The complaint affidavit alleges that on April 1, 2020, Jonathan Toebbe sent a package to a foreign government, listing a return address in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, containing a sample of Restricted Data and instructions for establishing a covert relationship to purchase additional Restricted Data. The affidavit also alleges that, thereafter, Toebbe began corresponding via encrypted email with an individual whom he believed to be a representative of the foreign government. The individual was really an undercover FBI agent. Jonathan Toebbe continued this correspondence for several months, which led to an agreement to sell Restricted Data in exchange for thousands of dollars in cryptocurrency.

On June 8, 2021, the undercover agent sent $10,000 in cryptocurrency to Jonathan Toebbe as “good faith” payment. Shortly afterwards, on June 26, Jonathan and Diana Toebbe traveled to a location in West Virginia. There, with Diana Toebbe acting as a lookout, Jonathan Toebbe placed an SD card concealed within half a peanut butter sandwich at a pre-arranged “dead drop” location. After retrieving the SD card, the undercover agent sent Jonathan Toebbe a $20,000 cryptocurrency payment. In return, Jonathan Toebbe emailed the undercover agent a decryption key for the SD Card. A review of the SD card revealed that it contained Restricted Data related to submarine nuclear reactors. On Aug. 28, Jonathan Toebbe made another “dead drop” of an SD card in eastern Virginia, this time concealing the card in a chewing gum package. After making a payment to Toebbe of $70,000 in cryptocurrency, the FBI received a decryption key for the card. It, too, contained Restricted Data related to submarine nuclear reactors. The FBI arrested Jonathan and Diana Toebbe on Oct. 9, after he placed yet another SD card at a pre-arranged “dead drop” at a second location in West Virginia.

Trial Attorneys Matthew J. McKenzie and S. Derek Shugert of the National Security Division’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section, Assistant U.S. Attorneys Jarod J. Douglas and Lara Omps-Botteicher of the Northern District of West Virginia, and Special Assistant U.S. Attorney Jessica Lieber Smolar for the Western District of Pennsylvania are prosecuting the case on behalf of the government. The FBI and the NCIS are investigating the case.

A complaint is merely an accusation. A defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.Attachment(s): Download Toebbe ComplaintTopic(s): Counterintelligence and Export ControlNational SecurityComponent(s): Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)National Security Division (NSD)USAO – West Virginia, NorthernPress Release Number: 21-983Updated October 10, 2021

7. Complaint


9. Apparent China sub. NavalNews

(Adds China sub image; Tweaks headine)

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